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they're alleging that chuck hagel was involved. not only is that a stretch but chuck hagel oversee something like this. they dignified the response. after both lindsey graham and john mccain said they were largely satisfied according to the hill, but they still wanted to push the hagueel vote back. in reality it's not like they actually care about any of that. this is purely about political grandstanding. and speaking of that john boehner is using the senate to excuse his complete lack of action in the house. >> the president likes to attack congress but if he's serious about enacting his agenda, i think it must start with the part of this congress, the united states senate. why can't he get past in the united states senate? >> michael: that's a really good question mr. speaker. let's get to work, senate democrats. joining me now philip ewing. he comes to us from washington, d.c. philip, welcome inside "the war room"." >> thanks for having me. >> michael: let's just start at the basics about hagel. once the senate gets closure what
they're alleging that chuck hagel was involved. not only is that a stretch but chuck hagel oversee something like this. they dignified the response. after both lindsey graham and john mccain said they were largely satisfied according to the hill, but they still wanted to push the hagueel vote back. in reality it's not like they actually care about any of that. this is purely about political grandstanding. and speaking of that john boehner is using the senate to excuse his complete lack of...
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plus, the latest obstacles to chuck hagel's confirmation. please share your weather pictures with us, if it's safe, tweet us at mitchellreport or on facebook.com/mitchell reports. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call now to request your free decision guide. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral. see why millions of people have already enrolled in the only medicare s
plus, the latest obstacles to chuck hagel's confirmation. please share your weather pictures with us, if it's safe, tweet us at mitchellreport or on facebook.com/mitchell reports. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to...
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and chuck hagel. and you can not compare the first two to chuck haguel. after i watched the hearing, i remembered the lyrics to a country song. you mean i shaved my legs for this? you mean we're having this huge fight over this guy who cannot even articulate our policy towards iran? >> robert? >> let's be clear. >> this performance was not good. >> two things. i want to go about something that ana just said. if you turned on cspan and hadn't watched tv in the intervening six years, you would think we had 150,000 troops parked right now in iraq. this next defense secretary is not going to deal with iraq and the surge. this was a vanity thing for john mccain to try to approprove to former friend who disagreed with him that he was right on the surge and that chuck hagel was wrong. >> what should hagel have said? what would you have told him to say? >> i think he said correctly, we're going to let history judge iraq, because frankly chuck hagel could have said, senator mccain, i think i might have been wrong on iraq. were you wrong on iraq? here's the questio
and chuck hagel. and you can not compare the first two to chuck haguel. after i watched the hearing, i remembered the lyrics to a country song. you mean i shaved my legs for this? you mean we're having this huge fight over this guy who cannot even articulate our policy towards iran? >> robert? >> let's be clear. >> this performance was not good. >> two things. i want to go about something that ana just said. if you turned on cspan and hadn't watched tv in the intervening...
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who is the star of the chuck hagel hearing? >> ted cruz, marco rubio. that's the latino right, which statistically is a pretty small percentage of latino voters in general, but the republican party cannot move forward at all without addressing this issue in some fundamental way. >> they're going to be ham strung. let's see what's on tap. tom hashingen is vacating his seat. steve king may end up being his replacement. steve king, who coined -- not coined, but uses, you know, with great impugnty the term anchor baby. saxby chambliss is leaving. john d. rockefeller leaving in west virginia. the leading goper is shelly -- murdock, again, we have this example time and time again the seat is offered up. the arch conservatives get their guy, and then maybe ashley judd or someone like her, some democrat from who, what, where, when, how comes in and ends up winning the seat. >> charlize theron is -- >> from south africa. >> oh, sorry. >> there needs to be a reconciliation here, right? as the party becomes more -- the battle lines are drawn with firmer and firmer
who is the star of the chuck hagel hearing? >> ted cruz, marco rubio. that's the latino right, which statistically is a pretty small percentage of latino voters in general, but the republican party cannot move forward at all without addressing this issue in some fundamental way. >> they're going to be ham strung. let's see what's on tap. tom hashingen is vacating his seat. steve king may end up being his replacement. steve king, who coined -- not coined, but uses, you know, with...
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what about chuck hagel? chuck, you had leon panetta on "meet the press" this weekend, and martin dempsey, the chairman of the joint chiefs. let me ask both of you what kind of power that chuck hagel would have, assuming he gets confirmed? how does he move into this period where he has to really fight for resources from congress and also deal within the cabinet, deal with the white house? snoo that seems to be the real question now. it's not if he is going to get confirmed. the political votes are there. another republican came on board over the weekend. roy blunt will vote no, but not filibuster. the votes are there to confirm him. that is not the question. the question is he going to have the political swagger, if you will, that secretary of defense immediate to both operate inside the pentagon, and that's -- you heard robert gibbs, former press secretary yesterday say it was a little disconcerting watching him give those answers. they made a strategic decision not to have a debate with those republican sen
what about chuck hagel? chuck, you had leon panetta on "meet the press" this weekend, and martin dempsey, the chairman of the joint chiefs. let me ask both of you what kind of power that chuck hagel would have, assuming he gets confirmed? how does he move into this period where he has to really fight for resources from congress and also deal within the cabinet, deal with the white house? snoo that seems to be the real question now. it's not if he is going to get confirmed. the...
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we start with chuck hagel's rough day on capitol hill. lawmakers attacked the former senator and vietnam veteran in a contentious, nearly eight hour hearing over his nomination to become at the next u.s. defense secretary. the question was expected to be tough but he appeared uncomfortable, even unprepared. the most heated exchange of the day came from a former close friend, senator john mccain who grilled hagel on opposing the 2007 u.s. troop surge in iraq. >> wiere you correct or incorret when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no? >> my reference to -- >> are you going to answer the question, senator hagel? the question is, were you right or wrong. that's a pretty straight forward question. >> well, i -- >> i would like the answer whether you're right or wrong and then you're free to elaborate. >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or no answer. >> well, let the record show you refuse to answer that question. please go ahead.
we start with chuck hagel's rough day on capitol hill. lawmakers attacked the former senator and vietnam veteran in a contentious, nearly eight hour hearing over his nomination to become at the next u.s. defense secretary. the question was expected to be tough but he appeared uncomfortable, even unprepared. the most heated exchange of the day came from a former close friend, senator john mccain who grilled hagel on opposing the 2007 u.s. troop surge in iraq. >> wiere you correct or...
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today, chuck hagel was in front of his old senate, colleagues he thought were friends. he had friends in the senate, friendsfriends like john mccain. >> that's a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> the surge assisted in the objective but the if we review the record a little bit. >> would you answer the question, were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam. were up correct or incorrect yes or no? >> my reference to. >> the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straight-forward question. i would like the answer whether you were right or wrong and then you are free to elaborate. >> i wanted to say that that guy was almost president but he wasn't even almost president. >> he's president of the surge. >> he's president of the surge, and he is a grumpy old man. john kerry got a free pass up there. he's a democratic. chuck hagel's just getting lambasted. he's a republican, a colleague. how is this happened? >> he's perceived as a threat to the idea of what t
today, chuck hagel was in front of his old senate, colleagues he thought were friends. he had friends in the senate, friendsfriends like john mccain. >> that's a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> the surge assisted in the objective but the if we review the record a little bit. >> would you answer the question, were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam. were up correct...
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which chuck hagel are we being asked to confirm? the one who shoots from the hip and means what he says? or the one who is now willing to say anything to be confirmed? we need a secretary of defense who can stand before the world and articulate that america is opposed to a nuclear iran and rejects a policy of containment. we need a secretary of defense who can stand before the world and be clear that the iranian government is not a legitimately constituted government. we need a secretary of defense with broad bipartisan support. sadly, that secretary is not chuck hagel. thank you, mr. president. the presiding officer: the senator from michigan. mr. levin: mr. president, how much time do we have on our side and on the republican side. the presiding officer: the senator from michigan has 11 1/2 minutes remaining. the senator from oklahoma has 11 minutes. mr. levin: mr. president, i have 11 unanimous consent requests for committees to meet during today's session of the senate. they have been approved by both the majority and minority l
which chuck hagel are we being asked to confirm? the one who shoots from the hip and means what he says? or the one who is now willing to say anything to be confirmed? we need a secretary of defense who can stand before the world and articulate that america is opposed to a nuclear iran and rejects a policy of containment. we need a secretary of defense who can stand before the world and be clear that the iranian government is not a legitimately constituted government. we need a secretary of...
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this vote is the vote on chuck hagel. it's not on procedure or anything. on chuck hagel. i retain the balance of my time. >> senator from michigan. >> what time does the majority have? >> 17 minutes remain for the majority. and three minutes for the minority. >>. >> five minutes senate from illinois. >> senator from illinois. >> madam president, this is rare. twice in the history of the senate have we had a filibuster involving a nominee for a cabinet position. twice. especially disappointing about this as it was just a few weeks ago we came together on a bipartisan basis and said we're not going this anymore. we're going try to work together. we're going try to avoid the filibuster and here we have sadly an historic filibuster over an appointment of a former united states senator, chuck hagel, republican of nebraska, as secretary of defense. i know, there's controversy social associated with the nomination. i know, chuck hagel. i served with him. we served together in the united states senate. no question in my mind the president made a good choice. i'll also tell you ne
this vote is the vote on chuck hagel. it's not on procedure or anything. on chuck hagel. i retain the balance of my time. >> senator from michigan. >> what time does the majority have? >> 17 minutes remain for the majority. and three minutes for the minority. >>. >> five minutes senate from illinois. >> senator from illinois. >> madam president, this is rare. twice in the history of the senate have we had a filibuster involving a nominee for a cabinet...
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we have to move on to the chuck hagel confirmation hearings. senators and former senators usually get the kid glove treatment in front of their former pierce but not so for chuck hagel. >> i'm on the record on many issues but no one individual vote, no one individual quote, no one individual statement defines me. my believes or my record. my overall world view has never changed. gwen: but by the end of an eight-hour hearing he's been called a flip-flopper, untrustworthy and lacking in judgment. it's generally now greed he did not do so well. what remains unclear is what happened, doyle? >> what happened? well, gwen, as you said, some former members of congress do brilliantly in front of committees. gwen: john kerry. >> and leon panetta? they schmooze and charm their colleagues and then there's chuck hagel. that's not who he is. he started out -- as he said, no single quote. well, he had a lot of quotes that were going to be a problem. he had a whole lot of relationships with republicans that were going to be a problem. but he's also kind of a p
we have to move on to the chuck hagel confirmation hearings. senators and former senators usually get the kid glove treatment in front of their former pierce but not so for chuck hagel. >> i'm on the record on many issues but no one individual vote, no one individual quote, no one individual statement defines me. my believes or my record. my overall world view has never changed. gwen: but by the end of an eight-hour hearing he's been called a flip-flopper, untrustworthy and lacking in...
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senate confirms chuck hagel. what increased demand for cocoanuts has failed to bear fruit for indonesia as farmers. pope benedict xvi is making his final appearance in st. peter's square as the roman catholic pope -- his final appearance in at st. peter's square. he is the first pope in 600 years to resign. >> in these recent months, i felt my weakening strength. i prayed and asked for in light meant to make the right decision for the good of the church. >> barbara, amid the huge outpouring of affection from the faithful gathered there. >> absolutely. a lot of people have turned out to say goodbye to pope benedict xvi. 50,000 tickets were sold. it is more likely that there are about 150,000 people around the vatican and the main road that leads to it. people are still walking towards st. peter's square, but they're being redirected to other parts around the square where there are big screens where they can watch the pope. nothing compared to the figures of the people we saw for the funeral of john paul back in 20
senate confirms chuck hagel. what increased demand for cocoanuts has failed to bear fruit for indonesia as farmers. pope benedict xvi is making his final appearance in st. peter's square as the roman catholic pope -- his final appearance in at st. peter's square. he is the first pope in 600 years to resign. >> in these recent months, i felt my weakening strength. i prayed and asked for in light meant to make the right decision for the good of the church. >> barbara, amid the huge...
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one of them i think is senator chuck hagel. >> john mccain and chuck hagel were so close that in 2000, when john mccain realized that he was not going to get the presidential nomination, when john mccain decided he had to give up that bitterly fought nomination battle, the person his campaign put out to speak to the press the day he made his decision to withdraw was his dear friend, old chuck. >> two aides tell nbc news that the arizona senator will announce a suspension of his quest for the white house. back in arizona after his crushing defeat on super tuesday mccain called supporters to thank them. >> we're glad to be home. >> nebraska senator chuck hagel, who spoke to mccain three times yesterday, believes mccain will stay in the republican party. >> he understands the big picture here. >> as you can tell from looking at this footage, as you can tell specifically from the evolution of the eye bags and the hairdos over time, that whole thing between chuck hague sxl john mccain was a long while ago. chuck hagel as john mccain's campaign co-chair, as the top of his short list for def
one of them i think is senator chuck hagel. >> john mccain and chuck hagel were so close that in 2000, when john mccain realized that he was not going to get the presidential nomination, when john mccain decided he had to give up that bitterly fought nomination battle, the person his campaign put out to speak to the press the day he made his decision to withdraw was his dear friend, old chuck. >> two aides tell nbc news that the arizona senator will announce a suspension of his...
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. >> andrea, we like chuck hagel. i think he'd be a good secretary of defense, but the performance yesterday was panned by people on all sides of the political spectrum. >> as claire mccaskill told me yesterday, she said, look. he is more used to asking questions than answering questions. there were a lot of issues. and what didn't help, of course, is that his former good friend, john mccain, just eviscerated him, grilled him, didn't give him a chance. yes or no. give me an answer. were you correct or incorrect? i mean, there is a way to try to do that, but clearly he came with a very hostile attitude. and it was very painful to watch. >> yeah. awkward at times. >> i mean, john mccain, mika, didn't let him answer a question. i'm sorry, out of that exchange, it was not chuck hagel who looked bad. >> ted cruz looked even worse. >> yeah. >> oh, my god. >> we're going to show all those coming up. >> he wasn't prepared, mika, in a lot of ways that were concerning. i think, again, the democrats, republicans, independents al
. >> andrea, we like chuck hagel. i think he'd be a good secretary of defense, but the performance yesterday was panned by people on all sides of the political spectrum. >> as claire mccaskill told me yesterday, she said, look. he is more used to asking questions than answering questions. there were a lot of issues. and what didn't help, of course, is that his former good friend, john mccain, just eviscerated him, grilled him, didn't give him a chance. yes or no. give me an answer....
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for direct negotiations do you think we could see direct negotiations any time soon with chuck hagel in ministration well i think that that former senator hagel has taken courageous positions on iran on a range of issues and i admire them and respect them and the concern i have is that he is being nominated for the wrong job to carry out those positions his defense secretary if he is a if he is if he's approved to be as defense secretary he will not be the person in charge of creating or implementing strategies of iran or any other foreign policy issue. he will be he will be at the defense department doing quintessentially defense secretary things in this environment which is to cut the budget and try to keep the united states out of another war now that peace try to keep the united states out of another war could have impact here but the problem is he what he could potentially try to keep united states out of another war without being able to either to offer a vision for another way to deal with this challenge the islamic republic poses a real challenge for the united states and a r
for direct negotiations do you think we could see direct negotiations any time soon with chuck hagel in ministration well i think that that former senator hagel has taken courageous positions on iran on a range of issues and i admire them and respect them and the concern i have is that he is being nominated for the wrong job to carry out those positions his defense secretary if he is a if he is if he's approved to be as defense secretary he will not be the person in charge of creating or...
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blocking chuck hagel's nomination is that somebody who had seen chuck hagel give a speech six years ago had later written the blog post about the speech in which he did not quote chuck hagel, but he asserted that chuck hagel had said awful things in the speech. no quotations of anything chuck hagel said there are certainly no transcripts or recordings of anything he said there is no direct attribution of anything that chuck hagel said at all. but lindsey graham and kelly ayotte wrote to chuck hageling is asking him to explain whether that blogger was right. chuck hagel amazingly responded to that with words be. the nature of the demand was unusual, right? especially for two senators who like to maintain themselves as very serious people on the issue of foreign policy. well, that whole incident followed up the blowup around the friends of hamas thing. the friends of hamas thing i can do far less justice that than comedy central can. behold stephen colbert. >> according to conservative news anger gator breitbart.com, hagel may have taken money from an organization called friends of ha
blocking chuck hagel's nomination is that somebody who had seen chuck hagel give a speech six years ago had later written the blog post about the speech in which he did not quote chuck hagel, but he asserted that chuck hagel had said awful things in the speech. no quotations of anything chuck hagel said there are certainly no transcripts or recordings of anything he said there is no direct attribution of anything that chuck hagel said at all. but lindsey graham and kelly ayotte wrote to chuck...
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during the hearing and chuck hagel had to bend backwards to show that mainstream is where he belongs the u.n. human rights council has released a report saying israel must move all certain this out of palestinian territories the paper says the settlements are a violation of human rights destroying palestinians property and crops driving them off their land israel has refused to cooperate with the investigation according to reports biased and counterproductive to peace efforts human rights activist and blogger roy my own sister the vivid is a routing its own credibility. israel has been complaining for many years that it's being singled out by various un organs. the human rights council one of the things that it was formed to do was to have a more equitable process which had the same level of scrutiny for all you would members and although this report did single out israel its boycott of the human rights council is comprehensive it refuse to participate in review process which every other un member tends anybody israel attended four years ago and that undermines not only israel's inte
during the hearing and chuck hagel had to bend backwards to show that mainstream is where he belongs the u.n. human rights council has released a report saying israel must move all certain this out of palestinian territories the paper says the settlements are a violation of human rights destroying palestinians property and crops driving them off their land israel has refused to cooperate with the investigation according to reports biased and counterproductive to peace efforts human rights...
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you can beat up on chuck hagel all you want. i think the basic propositions that hagel is putting forth are probably pretty unassailable. but hagel himself was on the defensive a lot today. and if the administration really wants him, they'd better back him and they'd better back him really fast and furious. >> richard, i thought he showed a great deal of composure. really took the high road when he was being attacked. >> look, there's a lot of personal animus there from john mccain to his old friend. they went out campaigning against each other. look, they may have split on the question of the surge in iraq, but the problem for john mccain is he was the biggest -- one of the biggest advocates for invading iraq. and so john mccain might want to try and whitewash the whole experience and pretend like it was all a great thing for america. but you know, when you look back at it, chuck hagel got the overall analysis right. this was the biggest foreign policy disaster since vietnam, where they both served. it's very personal. >> david
you can beat up on chuck hagel all you want. i think the basic propositions that hagel is putting forth are probably pretty unassailable. but hagel himself was on the defensive a lot today. and if the administration really wants him, they'd better back him and they'd better back him really fast and furious. >> richard, i thought he showed a great deal of composure. really took the high road when he was being attacked. >> look, there's a lot of personal animus there from john mccain...
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chuck hagel? >> i support chuck hagel. but i think he lost it. >> we will see you later, jack. we've got to go to break. call back. we will talking to you some more. we will be right back on the bill press show. filling in for bill press. we will be back. >> this is "the bill press show." going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. >> chatting with you live at current.com/billpress. this is "the bill press show," live on your radio and current tv >> question back on the bill press show. we look compelled alike. i know you got confused when you sea saw me. sometimes people mistake each ot
chuck hagel? >> i support chuck hagel. but i think he lost it. >> we will see you later, jack. we've got to go to break. call back. we will talking to you some more. we will be right back on the bill press show. filling in for bill press. we will be back. >> this is "the bill press show." going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda,...
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misinterpreted someone's joke about chuck hagel as association with a group of friends of hamas and they were in such a rush to break this story that they failed to check whether the group even exists and it doesn't so chuck hagel has been under attack not just for his previous statements but also for what he had never said and done. so the next defense secretary will have to deal with one notorious company long accused of manipulating the relationship with the government to get out of trouble part of his contract of a cause me the new name of blackhole to escape with little more than a slap on the wrist of a new arms smuggling scandal and michael o'brien and also the book called america's failure in the wrong things it's essentially immune to prosecution. they're just follow on charges after the the debacle at mr square in baghdad september of two thousand and seven. course that was where the seventeen iraqis were were killed you can say they were you know murdered needlessly killed whatever the case may be these are follow on charges that were. pushed against blackwater course tha
misinterpreted someone's joke about chuck hagel as association with a group of friends of hamas and they were in such a rush to break this story that they failed to check whether the group even exists and it doesn't so chuck hagel has been under attack not just for his previous statements but also for what he had never said and done. so the next defense secretary will have to deal with one notorious company long accused of manipulating the relationship with the government to get out of trouble...
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chuck hagel did that as a sergeant in vietnam. if confirmed, chuck hagel will do it again. this time not before a platoon but before every man and woman and their families in the armed services, you will lead them, and they will know in their hearts, we have one of our own. you're on your own. good luck. \[laughter] >> well, we thank you both, senator warner, senator nunn, for your powerful introductions. i just wish every member of the senate, every american could have heard, and i hope will hear and read about what you said here today about chuck hagel. and i also notice there's another former senator who is a member of that band of brothers who is with us today. i just noticed in the audience max cleland is here and i want to welcome you, max, an old friend of the committee and of the senate and of the nation. so let me now call on senator hagel, and senator warner, senator nunn, again, thank you for your introductions and you are free to get back to your lives or to stay as you wish. >> thank you. >> senator hagel. >> thank you, chairman levin, ranking member inhofe and
chuck hagel did that as a sergeant in vietnam. if confirmed, chuck hagel will do it again. this time not before a platoon but before every man and woman and their families in the armed services, you will lead them, and they will know in their hearts, we have one of our own. you're on your own. good luck. \[laughter] >> well, we thank you both, senator warner, senator nunn, for your powerful introductions. i just wish every member of the senate, every american could have heard, and i hope...
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for direct negotiations do you think we could see direct negotiations any time soon with chuck hagel in the ministration well if he i think that that former senator hagel has taken courageous positions on iran on a range of issues and i admire them and respect them and the concern i have is that he is being nominated for the wrong job to carry out those positions his defense secretary if he is or if he is if he's approved to be as defense secretary he will not be the person in charge of creating or implementing strategies of iran or any other foreign policy issue. he will be he will be at the defensive. i mean doing quintessentially defense secretary things in this environment which is to cut the budget and try to keep the united states out of another war now that peace try to keep the united states out of another war could have impact here but the problem is he what he could potentially try to keep united states out of another war without being able to either to offer a vision for another way to deal with this challenge the islamic republic poses a real challenge for the united stat
for direct negotiations do you think we could see direct negotiations any time soon with chuck hagel in the ministration well if he i think that that former senator hagel has taken courageous positions on iran on a range of issues and i admire them and respect them and the concern i have is that he is being nominated for the wrong job to carry out those positions his defense secretary if he is or if he is if he's approved to be as defense secretary he will not be the person in charge of...